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    Regarding 10 and 100 year jobs (And maybe even SS?)

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    Post by King Zenshin 17th June 2014, 7:14 pm

    Regarding 10 yr and 100 yr jobs.

    For most jobs it's believable that an event would happen over and over again for mages of all guilds and ranks to do over and over again, they're repetetive and simple. Something you could expect would happen again and again.

    Then there are 10 yr and 100 yr jobs: Take The Beacons (100 year job) for example. It's totally believable that this event would happen, but only once ever. I know that most mages wont even attempt this job, but even then, if two seperate groups take it, it seems a bit unbelievable and insincere. There is only a very few number of times where the world is in peril, if it happens ever other week is a bit boring.

    I know this is really nitpicky, and I dont expect anything to happen any time soon regarding this, if ever, what with all of the systems coming soon. But this is something to think about

    I propose when a team takes on a 10 or 100 year job, and maybe even an SS one, the thread gets locked and if they fail, it gets unlocked, but if it is completed successfully, it stays locked and the mages who did it go to some hall of fame or something. These *are* supposed to be the most insane jobs in the mage world after all.

    Just something to think about, please share your thoughts down there


    Kira's amendment: I agree it should apply to other jobs as well. But select ones that it makes sense for, as mods or admins would need to hunt them down individually and it could get confusing.


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    Post by Kaseki 17th June 2014, 7:17 pm

    I think that would be a great idea. These are the most "difficult" missions ever, but with a few groups saving the same world at the same time... it doesn't make any sense IC wise.


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    Post by Kirahunter 17th June 2014, 7:26 pm

    I do feel it is weird when some jobs are repeated.

    I put this next bit in a spoiler cuz it varies from the suggestion at hand a bit.
    Skip if you don't like free thinkers:

    Bottom line:
    I strongly agree that at the very least 10 and 100 year jobs should be 1 time things.

    Side thing that is half relevant:
    Also maybe make it so that there are more 10 years then 100 years. Considering that in the manga there is only one singular 100 year job. 100 years aren't a category of jobs it is a single 10 year job that took serious steroids.


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    Post by Akira Tatsumi 18th June 2014, 1:48 pm

    In all honesty, I don't really think this is a good idea. I understand logic and what not, but why apply logic to it when there are only five 100 years and two 10 years? I mean, who will take there time to make several of these missions once they are all locked? For some people, there goal is to finish atleast one 100 year, because I know I do, but then when the time would come there would be none available. Sure I might make one, but that is considering it will actually get added to the job board. In conclusion, I don't think this rule would be fair to all people who have the goal to complete a higher ranked job such as these.


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    Post by Dave 18th June 2014, 2:15 pm

    Because it doesnt make a lick of IC sense. And that's the bottom line

    Oh yeah! All these mages saved the world from the save problem! It's unrealistic.


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    Post by Zuo Cii 18th June 2014, 6:02 pm

    More can always be made Axel. Wouldn't you rather save the world in a way unique to you rather then saving it in a way that has been done a million times?

    On that note as part of the development team, if we do act on this suggestion I would happily work to create more high ranked jobs.


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    Post by King Zenshin 18th June 2014, 6:12 pm

    Me too


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    Post by Zeon 18th June 2014, 6:51 pm

    Well if we do this, then the 10 and 100 year jobs will need an exp boost cause now you not only made a job with a long time to complete. Now you have to compete to basically get these jobs. So a sort of recompense will be needed. Also lets be honest, us devs have been kinda lazy in the job making department.

    So yeah... Do this when we actually are active.
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    Post by Aria Beleren 18th June 2014, 6:52 pm

    Zenneth wrote:Well if we do this, then the 10 and 100 year jobs will need an exp boost cause now you not only made a job with a long time to complete. Now you have to compete to basically get these jobs. So a sort of recompense will be needed. Also lets be honest, us devs have been kinda lazy in the job making department.

    So yeah... Do this when we actually are active.

    This


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    Post by Zuo Cii 18th June 2014, 6:54 pm

    "So yeah... Do this when we actually are active."


    o-o

    procrastinating much? We won't become more active by waiting. No offense but I question the wisdom of waiting until we become more active to be active.

    About competition I don't think that will be a problem considering how few people take jobs of that level.

    If it would make the higher ups happier about the idea we could pre-make some more 100 and 10 year jobs BEFORE putting this into place. That way there will be enough jobs to go around while more get made.


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    Post by Aria Beleren 18th June 2014, 6:55 pm

    Zuo Cii wrote:"So yeah... Do this when we actually are active."


    o-o

    procrastinating much? We won't become more active by waiting. No offense but I question the wisdom of waiting until we become more active to be active.

    About competition I don't think that will be a problem considering how few people take jobs of that level.

    Not procrastination. Life dude. Life.


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    Post by Zeon 18th June 2014, 7:06 pm

    I was in hospital for a week, another week recovering at home and you call me procrastinating? Dude I am sorry but Real Life takes priority over game life.
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    Post by Zuo Cii 18th June 2014, 7:13 pm

    Zenneth I am not calling you out personally. Lemme make that clear.

    You could be posting every second or once a year. Not my business.


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    @kyll regarding life

    I am just saying "We shouldn't start a project because we aren't active." Won't solve anything. Starting a project like this would help developers get more active. With a clear goal that everyone and anyone could work towards I don't see a lack of man power as a problem.

    We have the man power to do this. How do I know for sure? Simple we have at least 1 willing person.

    "But kira one person isn't enough!"

    >.> it is enough with no time limit. No date has been set for this, if we are worried about running out of jobs we can just casually work on making more and stock pile them for a month or two or five or however long we want. Then once we are comfortable with the number of jobs we can release them and add the "no 100 year repeats" to the rulez.

    Nothing but time on our side.


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    Post by King Zenshin 18th June 2014, 8:49 pm

    Also, if you cant handle the job then you shouldnt be on the dev team. It's like Reiki having had the Ice DS position and not posting ever or Alye being an admin. You're just taking up potential spots. Etc

    Also what Kira said, hell I'll make some jobs if DEVELOPMENT team can't develop things. It's not like this is something that should happen immediately, but when we are more prepared.

    It's not like EVERYONE is trying to do 10 and 100 year jobs to begin with. Who's competing?


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    Post by Aria Beleren 18th June 2014, 9:03 pm

    Sorry I just had a flash back of last weekends jicama incident. *shudders* Yeah.. life... Didn't want to log in for four days because I would've taken all of my parental visit stress on you guys. You think I'm high strung now.

    Anyway I see where you guys are going. Some of these jobs need to be updated. We need a rotational idea. Positions are full that shouldn't be. I get the rant. It's the same crap... just a different toilet. So let's look over this one first. We may need Seijin back for this one because we, Admins, really have no control other than recommending people for dev and so on.


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    Post by King Zenshin 18th June 2014, 10:12 pm

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    Post by Rosetta Crawford 22nd June 2014, 6:07 am

    If it becomes necessary I can quite easily make some more jobs. They don't take that long. It just requires a little bit of thought. Yes my time is limited, but I do quite enjoy the creative side.

    It doesn't make sense for 100 year and 10 year jobs to be up there more than once simply because the name of the job means 'No-one has managed to complete this job in 10 years'. So if its completed...it should at least drop down to SS at highest.


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