Allow more first and third generation slayers?

I don't see why this is necessary. People with slayer lacrima can be second generation slayers already. There is no real 'bonuses' between second and third gen except that second gen wasn't raised by a dragon (think Laxus or Cobra). However, there is nothing saying that in your plot you can't go and train with a dragon to help master the lacrima. Of course, that wouldn't make you a first gen, but still you'd be damn near similar. Why do we need a system change for something you can essentially already do?

As for third generation....technically that wouldn't be possible as you'd have to be raised by a dragon and have a lacrima implanted. However, I don't see any issue with allowing a person to have two slayer lacrima implanted. In fact, its canon as that is how future rogue got white dragon slayer powers and its also how Serena got all of their powers. So...I guess another name might be needed like dual second gen slayer or something

To be honest, I'd rather everyone be able to make their own Lacrima/Slayer position as long as it follows the slayer rules.

So if understanding this right want the ability for lacrimas users to be first gen so can essentially have more third gen? At that point though they really wouldn't be lacrimas IC due to the difference between First and Second Gen by definition.If did allow the ability for a slayer vip or someone with a lacrima to be first gen, then I feel it should stay as it would as if position simply stating they have the magic.  And before someone mentions this is non-canon site so could ignore how it is in show, would like to say that we shouldn't just ignore source material since this is just an Alt Universe essentially.

On the topic of third gen capabilities... not entirely sure how would this go. I have known of people in the past who have had two lacrima and use them before. Due to rules preset to my knowledge people would usually get different elemental lacrimas due to not being able to go third gen with the. On one hand this is essentially a case of Source vs Site since canon wise we know how third gen slayers come to be. However due to the fact there seems to be no essential difference from first and second aside from origins hard to say how exactly third gen gain that ability to go force at will.Looking at this system wise what would this mean. First a question for staff if can clear up; I know that a person who receives a lacrima from someone else can change the element, so my question is can the OG owner of the lacrima change it whenever they want? Question aside admittedly it would be a difficult feat to acquire two lacrima unless you obtain from someone else so could warrant the idea of being able to go third gen from two of the same element lacrima. From my understanding hybrid is essentially the being of using two diff slayer elements and there hasn't been an instance of a person with two lacrima of the same gen.

To recap in case don't want to read all of that, the main issue is Site vs Source and the idea of Lacrima IC.For first gen opportunities, I'd say they can be first gen however would lose the ability to say that they have a Lacrima IC until either give up the magic as first gen or obtain a position.For third Gen, personally I don't think the fact we are non-canon site allow us to tear away too much from the World of the show in some aspects. However if for something as small as this since doesn't affect the world IC really more so the individual story that someone is trying to write so I'd say its ok for someone with two lacrima of the same element to be considered third Gen.

So just a note, please read the EDIT section I made in the first post as that's what I intended from the start.

In truth with the exception of the 'site's income' I don't see why we limit slayers anymore. If everyone is slayers so what? Its not that big a deal. Just allows us to see a lot more 'varities' of the same slayer.

Ammon wrote:In truth with the exception of the 'site's income' I don't see why we limit slayers anymore. If everyone is slayers so what? Its not that big a deal. Just allows us to see a lot more 'varities' of the same slayer.

Ideally would be interesting if slayers weren't such a popular magic. Aside from those couple new users who join wanting to be just like natsu; I think its important because with number of active people we have ranging around.... I think around 50-100 while would see a spike in new users we don't want to see a large fraction of people on site with similar magic. Yeah could have diff variety of slayer magic though slayer magic is very similar across the board and definite; its allowing the ability to use your body as a medium to cast elemental magic due to changing your physiological structure. Yes could expand however after certain point its not slayer magic anymore and just custom magic. Plus if did would have to change the fact of free consumption, free stat buffs/res and free force because it becomes an ordinary magic instead of something special/position wise.Ntm as said the position/lacrima part is a large source of income for the site and honestly probably keeps it from being a free one. Plot wise you can do alot of the same thing as slayers without actually being a slayer.


Since got that out of the way I would like to ask people do not bring up the removal of position system or the ability to make slayers as they would like since this is not the focus of this thread. If really want this to happen can make a diff suggestion in the suggestion thread though would point out that several have come out beforehand and recently.

I"m just gonna say it... the slayer system is fine. No I'm not saying it because I am one, I didn't start that way. Do we get some bonuses, yes. But nothing that is so major or amazing that it is game breaking. And in a site where pvp is so laughable that nobody does it anymore outside of plot reasons where everyone should be working for the same goal, I don't see why you really can't do just about whatever you want in your thread. If you want to be a slayer go check someone's activity and see if they should be removed from the position for not being active. Or buy a lacrima, they are on sale right now with the vip packs.

NO NO NO NO.

Leave the slayer system aloone! I don't mean to be the guy whom offers completely unconstructive criticism but I believe the people above me have layed out what I wanted to say clearly enough.

Alright. Now I know this is probably predictable coming from a slayer, but here's what I think.

I gotta agree with Blood and Mash on this one. Adding more slayers would really just take away the aesthetic of being one. If the site was full of them, no one would really care about being one anymore. It's better to earn your way normally, and feel good about being one. Adding more wouldn't make people happier, it would just make being a slayer less significant. Even so, many assume slayers are better, but that is not the case. It all depends on the writer. When it comes down to it, it's really just a title with a few bonuses.

My opinion: The slayer system shouldn't be changed.

As far as I'm aware, VIP is around because of the slayer positions, if we got rid of them as applicable positions, what's the point in having VIP since you no longer have to pay for god and demon?

Paying to be able to get H Rank
Paying for jewels
Paying for the extra EXP
Paying for the little extras

The site can still make plenty of money even if slayer positions are open to everyone.

https://www.fairytail-rp.com/t23250-allowing-slayers-to-become-first-gen-from-second-gen#258106

The above is a link to a re-do of this suggestion since I feel this one has gone far off track due to others and myself not being able to express ideas clearly. Going to have a mod lock this thread(if your a mod seeing this please lock this thread?)

All i gotta say, if it's not broke. Don't try to fix it