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    Mifune
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    The White Wizard


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    Post by Mifune 6th June 2017, 12:15 pm

    The topic of Slayers and what elements they can eat has recently been brought in to question.

    First off, I'd like to avoid pointing fingers at what the rules currently state in regards to this subject, and move on to figuring out a solution to make Slayers, and more particularly Dragon Slayers a little more relevant.

    The issue is in regards to "Mixed" or "Impure" elements. Dragon Slayers can not eat a "Mixed" element and in my own opinion this has led to a lot of abuse in Magic Creation, in such a way as to loophole around a Dragon Slayers ability to devour elements. Literally anyone can "Mix" their primary magic element by saying "Oh, my fire's Holy. Go F*ck yourself Dragon Slayer." Taking away a Dragon Slayers primary attraction.

    These rules were original implemented for the SOLE purpose of making God and Demon Slayers naturally more desirable, being the only ones who cannot be loopholed out of their own Ability to eat elements with the exception of the other and thus being naturally superior to Dragon Slayers. (Someone must also actually Pay and acquire VIP status to get.)

    My proposal is to introduce an amendment to the Slayer Rules or Magic Rules in general, that make it so that a Primary Magic alone cannot fall under the "Mixed element" category. This does NOT mean people can't mix up their Primary magics. You can still call your fire Holy or Unholy, or even throw in some secondary effects. This only means that a Mage can NOT negate a Slayers ability to eat their element by throwing a few extra words in to your magic description.

    Secondly, make it possible to create mixed elements only by means of a Secondary Magic. If you have Fire magic, and Holy fire... You can create a Holy Fire that can not be eaten by Dragon Slayers.

    To Summarize, make it so a Single magic can not loophole their way out of being devoured by Slayers.

    A more simple solution would be to remove the emphasis on Mixed elements... and make it so that it is not possible for Dragon Slayers to eat God or Demon Slayer elements Period... and leave it at that, and make no mention of Mixed elements.

    Quite frankly I'm surprised everyone doesn't just throw in a few extra words to their magic description to avoid Dragon Slayers gobbling up their magic. Because as things are, that's exactly what people are capable of, and Dragon Slayers are in danger of being really really hungry and nowhere near as powerful as they were meant to be in the beginning.


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    Lich of hell


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    Post by Eris 6th June 2017, 12:49 pm

    Problem is that the concept of there being a magic out there that fairly invalidates your own makes it undesirable to ever consider making an elemental magic alltogether when you could instead make something non-elemental and not worry about bothering with slayers at all.


    Meanwhile on the other hands,  Slayers don't lose anything at all.   Eating elements is nothing but yet another bonus advantage that costs them nothing,  of which they can still eat the environment to maintain a free advantage,  which is then also on top of other free advantages not afforded to other types of magics.


    Slayers really don't lose anything from people making their magic inedible,  but it keeps the others from being screwed over.



    I'd rather see consumption of player spells completely done away with if anything,  though they could do so if they balance it as one of their Unique Abilities or even either/also as an active spell.


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